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#1 Ipcress

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 08:39 PM

I thought we should have a topic devoted to the 'Occupy' movement, as it's quite relevant to the discussion here.

Here's a recent news article that helps put it in perspective. The headline pretty much says it all:

American Professors Gather in Tehran for Occupy Wall Street Conference

The conference was back in February, but this is the first news story I've seen about it.

Attendees probably heard something like this on the opening day:
"We'd like to express our sincere thanks to the FSB and GRU for hosting us here this week in Tehran. You'll find a wide range of their outstanding reference booklets in the lobby, so please take home as many as you can."

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 11:26 PM

Excellent thread to start. This year's offensive starts on May First, or as the #OWS calls it, "May Day."

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Posted 23 April 2012 - 12:16 AM

Iran is getting snookered into needlessly upsetting America further, investing itself into a ploy against its interests, even nuclear ones. They are getting sidetracked and off message.

The reality is this: If America could protect the denunciation by Iran of the Soviet Union, I do not think the Kremlin would be very pleased with this sudden change. Thus the Soviets want us to attack Iran, to make us look like we are not protecting friends from Ukraine to Iran, but that we are forcing an encirclement of Russia and a restart of the cold war. This would uncover the mask of the Soviets and it would rally arab support against a now perceived Soviet Union with eyes to invade places like Afghanistan or the Middle East.

It's been obvious that even the disastrous arab spring has somewhat however neutralized Cold War legacy Russian military support there, thus putting Russia and China on the spot as to whether they truly ended the Cold war or not.

We have caved in with Syria and we are caving in with Iran and North Korea.

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Another aspect of the Occupy Movement is the Gaia Earth worship. This is about ecofascism of Gorbatchev, this additional bureaucratic structure which results in specialization in keeping things bureaucratically hostage, self blaming and making the Earth occupy us instead of us occupying it and taking custody of it. The communist terrorist is obsessed with taking custodies, ambushing Islam style, self blame and to keep things for itself. He must be a narcissist because blaming others and getting others to self blame is their sole retarded game.

So, for them, it is perfectly acceptable to have antinuclear green ecologists arm themselves with nuclear weapons and cause huge ecological damage in order to get to rule for the benefit of the Earth, even killing it out right (because we never let them try it enough to make it perfect).

Gorbatchev's Perestroika deception involved the denunciation of pollution in Russia, but it never was intended to bring sanction against the Soviets, but against the West.

Again, little mind and collective thuggery games. Ultimately bureaucrates , bureaucracies, all gaming the system here against some and for others there via the implementation of special "Obama Affirmative Action loopholes" and other blood oaths to their religion, goes on, and it is going to ambush itself into total stupidity. Evil is evil, and it is stupid ultimately, because it is a formula of the absurd, a formula that is missing variables and which lives in the darkness of constants. Ultimately it is a formula that eats itself: "let's make sure these people feel bad for screwing up, but let us not them let know why, and, yet, punish them if they do not give us free food as they starve to death and cannot eat let alone produce".

It is incredibly mentally unhealthy to live around or within circles of such "overadolescenting" brats who think they know better and who use or believe in condemning shallow slogans without any context or knowledge of the story, nor care thereof.

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Posted 26 April 2012 - 11:54 AM

Here's an interesting "reference" article that shows some of the supporters of the Occupy Movement:

http://askmarion.wor...d-sympathizers/
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Posted 26 April 2012 - 12:43 PM

Here's an interesting "reference" article that shows some of the supporters of the Occupy Movement:

http://askmarion.wor...d-sympathizers/


The associations are interesting. Unfortunately, the "conclusions" reached via the NWO-ism view, is similar to that which sees through the same prism wherein the enemy is a whole confluence of free masons, the Vatican, UN, etc. This is the same view that the NWO was behind the establishment of the USSR and that the "elites" within the NWO, the "Powers-that-Be," are the orchestrators behind it all.

These are the similar notions that can understand about Golitsyn, and even quote him and do exposes of the fall of communism (as the John Birch-associated magazine The New American) but yet miss the boat about the main source of the on-going deception, they pin it all on masons, the elite, Lucifer, etc, and fail to see the deception for what it is as having been hatched out of the bowls of the intelligence organs of Moscow, Bejing, etc. In their minds, communism/socialism is only a subset factor; thereby, they get lost in the swarm of NWO-ism that see demons everwhere. This meld of notions incorporates all sorts of beliefs in its extended view that effectively blinds it to what is consider "TFP;" it diverts and misdirects attention elsewhere.

Read the text following the list of OWS supporters and you'll see what I mean.

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Posted 26 April 2012 - 03:26 PM

NWOists fall in the communist tribal warfare bait, and it divides a nation, so that subconsciously one will drop one's flag and proudly say like an idiot: I don't pledge to any flag or any organization, I believe in a "United World". That in itself is the communist slogan. The whole language is so hypocritical and dictatorial, devoid of any independent thoughts, of self belief, ambushing and demoralizing. It's basically telling a person who has a child with autism to stop taking care of the child and instead to put all energies, moneys and what not into a common fund for autism. It really is an offer for a cop out.

Meanwhile the Kremlin is in a secret marriage of its own, and within it other associations and deals are made. It's all based on paranoia. Staying around communists is terrible for one's mental health.

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Posted 26 April 2012 - 08:11 PM

The associations are interesting. Unfortunately, the "conclusions" reached via the NWO-ism view, is similar to that which sees through the same prism wherein the enemy is a whole confluence of free masons, the Vatican, UN, etc. This is the same view that the NWO was behind the establishment of the USSR and that the "elites" within the NWO, the "Powers-that-Be," are the orchestrators behind it all.

These are the similar notions that can understand about Golitsyn, and even quote him and do exposes of the fall of communism (as the John Birch-associated magazine The New American) but yet miss the boat about the main source of the on-going deception, they pin it all on masons, the elite, Lucifer, etc, and fail to see the deception for what it is as having been hatched out of the bowls of the intelligence organs of Moscow, Bejing, etc. In their minds, communism/socialism is only a subset factor; thereby, they get lost in the swarm of NWO-ism that see demons everwhere. This meld of notions incorporates all sorts of beliefs in its extended view that effectively blinds it to what is consider "TFP;" it diverts and misdirects attention elsewhere.

Read the text following the list of OWS supporters and you'll see what I mean.


I agree, and must say that I posted a link to that page ONLY for the documented links between the Occupy Movement and far-left, radical and Communist organizations.

They all want to see the world as we know it end, and start over as "something better". The only means to achieve that, in their eyes, is by attacking and destroying the West and its foundations.

The Utopian impulse is strong in the world today. The storm of destructive will against the established order is about to break, and it will not be pretty.
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Posted 27 April 2012 - 12:23 PM


I agree, and must say that I posted a link to that page ONLY for the documented links between the Occupy Movement and far-left, radical and Communist organizations.

They all want to see the world as we know it end, and start over as "something better". The only means to achieve that, in their eyes, is by attacking and destroying the West and its foundations.

The Utopian impulse is strong in the world today. The storm of destructive will against the established order is about to break, and it will not be pretty.



Utopian is the key word here. Whether it is Dr.Spock, the dream of Bolivar for United Americas, or this son of a school dean named Lenin, they all have this accademic utopian dream of a world without a consequence and without a boss to whom moral standards of trust must be earned. This is why they attack women who have children and men.

Also, many note that Stalin was stupid in killing so many, however, here is the issue. When an elite friend of yours in an elite army dies in a tank battle in Iraq, while thousands of Iraqis get decimated by the same unit, it simply hurts morale more when the single man tragedy happens than when the "human" statistic occures. The true murder of the left is collectivism, this sort of cloning and "anonymous-ing" of the individual for wholesale consequentless slaughter, enslavement and sausage making mentality of the slaughterhouse.

It was not stupid, it was by design, to cover his political behind, that he had so many killed, and to make it acceptable. Hence, when they talk about a "United World" and giving no credence to the tragedy of the loss of Nation States or even the culture of the South after the Civil War, we are entering a dangerous zone of wholesale slaughter. THe feel good MArxist talking of unity is talking about avoiding personal responsability and implicating entire people under a program under vague accronyms and ploys to make each and everyone's life a statistic. THis is the dangerous third world mentality that the like of Obama are used to, as well as French style colonies which did not seek to intend the rise of the quality of the individual, but its wholesale usage and sort of aloofness from the daily deaths of the regions, making one more insignificant.

In that respect, the Marxists are fooling themselves, or, at least, the populists, that is, because, they are the target and not they are not doing themselves a favor. Abortion and all these issues seem to be founded on this apathy of the prostitute to whom this or that "man" is just any other man-animal after one thing only, be it sex, food or what not. It thus is these very same cynical folkes who end up being anti-"intellectual" or pseudo-intellectual.

Was there a 911 conspiracy? Let us look at the picture. What was the language on 911? A massive strike that made the capitalist a statistically convenient target of destruction, moving no one in particular. This is the Marxist language, and Bin Laden carried it and his helpers, these leftist spirits, still to this day, carry the same water of the language intended. Interestingly, it is these same statistical self making idiots of OWS who lend themselves to be relegated to factories, union thug bosses and unscrupulous business practices of exploitation of workers, all the way to government and fascist nation state serving.

Thus, when Marx talked about the end justifying the means, the means are these "statisticallized" people, and the end is Marx at the helm. There is no start or end or a utopian happy society "in the end", it was not about "end of time" or "end of history", it was about keeping the machinery going for a dictator, this means for that dictator and forever.

It is very uncanny how this language is viciously shaped into confusing the interlocutors, it is diabolical. It also hits at the very emotion of these dumbed down people who wonder why they are "not special", always lonely, prone to exploitation and more populist make-believe messages, until they are resigned to be a statistic and not care for anything, callous, thugging around and voting for depravity further.

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 01:44 PM

The antiwar and antiwork types are hypocritical, always envying the positions they attack and gambling to win all the time with force of arms, a government military guarded guarrantee of free eductation jackpots every time the dice is rolled.



To start a business means to fail many before that, but nowadays we expect that going to school will make business entitled.



This is the same sort of Utopia that animate Bin Ladens of this world. They say Islam is peace because these feminine men certainly would rather have a free opportunity to rape rather than "fight" each other to prove their love and care for a woman. They take the woman hostage, attack her, and they blame this on the man defending her. Those fascinated by the terrorist rhetoric after 911 seem to like the cunning message of making Americans blame themselves and Israel for the attack on the soft bellies of the world. "We would not be raping if they were not attacking me". What a sick clever statement. Because their point is to message to other fighting men to stop fighting and join a muslim brotherhood of raping and looting and destroying society.



This is a boon for the Soviets and pink control freak anarchist who cannot control themselves from controlling others, free like a raging fire on drugs going on and about. The communists merely organized a permanent state of riot, bureaucratized it and made it somewhat quiet, alone, in a bedroom, sulking. The crowd which cannot be self controling and which only seek calls for fire and consumption, a free for all, like in those orgies of drinking festivities where everything goes, fits the "democratic" model of it all.



Sustainable "development"? By whom? For whom? Of what? For what? All the time their language of perversion oozes left and right in "lighterman" like slogans and Obamanoid languages.



These people have strange dreams of orgies for the world, "democratic" (a word originaly implying the responsability of the individual in how the country is run, but now completely debauched) and "demoralic" in its abandon of anything good and giving, ripping and taking.



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Posted 08 May 2012 - 12:56 AM

http://www.canadafre...p/article/46516

Douglas Hagmann claims his source inside the DHS is saying the government is preparing for massive social unrest "civil war" within the United States. On top of that, he claims the Obama administration is paying money to malcontents (Farrakhan is allegedly getting money too) under the pretext of "tracking" subversives (Like Fast and Furious) to initiate largescale riots, theft and destruction of property to cause revolutionary chaos within the United States.

This article would probably fit within the old Red/terror-Gray terror thread, but the Occupy thread was more obvious and I'm pretty lazy. Read the article. It's scary.

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 03:47 AM

Regarding the above article, I read it with some interest and started becoming a bit suspicious of it.

When I reached the paragraph below, I became highly suspicious of its credibility, reliability, and authenticity:

“Obama is using some high profile people as pawns to foment the revolution. I heard several times through very credible sources that [Louis] Farrakhan is on the CIA payroll. Other have been named as well, but I’m not prepared to identify them yet. Farrakhan is to coordinate the Blacks and the Muslims to prepare for riots this summer, using any means necessary.”

A paragraph or two more and the whole thing leaves me wondering if this is not just some creative writing.

CIA involvement with Farrakhan (on its bankroll)?! "Any means necessary," melodramatically invoking Malcom X?!

I don't trust BHO, but this seems to be bunk.







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Posted 09 May 2012 - 11:10 AM

Regarding the above article, I read it with some interest and started becoming a bit suspicious of it.

When I reached the paragraph below, I became highly suspicious of its credibility, reliability, and authenticity:

“Obama is using some high profile people as pawns to foment the revolution. I heard several times through very credible sources that [Louis] Farrakhan is on the CIA payroll. Other have been named as well, but I’m not prepared to identify them yet. Farrakhan is to coordinate the Blacks and the Muslims to prepare for riots this summer, using any means necessary.”

A paragraph or two more and the whole thing leaves me wondering if this is not just some creative writing.

CIA involvement with Farrakhan (on its bankroll)?! "Any means necessary," melodramatically invoking Malcom X?!

I don't trust BHO, but this seems to be bunk.



Yeah, they always have these accuzations which are more "thought control" mechanisms of paranoia than reality. The CIA is associated with government incarceration. This is typical of a Russian to point at a threat in order to evade scrutiny. I worked with Russian bankers who would point at a guy's salary or selfishness in order to avoid their own detection. This is the typical know how of the convict or what one learns when incarcerated with loonies like these.

So, the idea here is to create in the reader a sort of Terminal and permanent state of the Revolution, precluding any successful counter-revolution effort or will in the targeted people. It is demoralization process. If people have the Guillotine mindset of permanently being jailed or a hate and wish to permanently jail their targets for destruction, then we are politicaly liable to accept the permanent tying of the hands of defense organs or corporations for wrongs done by one mole here and there. Thus the workers get collectively punished FOR EVER... and, yet, the enemy will also plead not to indulge in the death penalty for themselves because we should not do that to ourselves.

These are problem-child behaviors of conspiracy writers, typical leftoid behavior. It's uncanny. It's these little petty intellectual games within a closed world that is 2 dimensional, much like living as a hyeroglyph stuck to wall and in Pharoh's tomb. TV and video games have this same effect of "hyeroglyphing" subsconsciously the mind and making it incapable of thinking outside the box and constraining it to "inside the box genius". Ultimately the pimp is so good at it, he too is taken over and incarcerating himself, embracing that lifestyle whole, proud of it and its decadence in death.

This is the problem with corporatist RINOs like Romney. Because they feel guilty of their mistakes, which helps the governments make a case for permanently controling corporations and looting them (at the encouragement of communists, shrewed or mad maniacs), and it makes conservatives incensed. It drives a fear cycle which draws the target of interest toward the communist tentacles (not to mention further slipping in their tentacles as depending compromises with them are made with their terrible and infective advice). Could Romney be a mole? I think he is blackmailed subconsciously and asking for government help in fixing his bad capitalist behaviors.

This cunning game playing is not normal. Georges Washington did not want to be President because he feared or loathed to be thrown in this mess and being dragged with it. America was founded in the same cautionary documents of the Declaration and the Constitution. But nowadays, you have kids who think they know it all inside their little box and do not believe in an outside of the box where they feel completely incompetent. Brainwash works by closing the mind and demoralization, and self brainwash works by excelling within the constriction of the box to lower levels of nonsense games. The jail bird impresses by throwing people into his jail and then playing HIS game on them after placing them within the context words of "feelings" offered, making people step in their petty "territory".

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 10:26 PM

Regarding the above article, I read it with some interest and started becoming a bit suspicious of it.

When I reached the paragraph below, I became highly suspicious of its credibility, reliability, and authenticity:

“Obama is using some high profile people as pawns to foment the revolution. I heard several times through very credible sources that [Louis] Farrakhan is on the CIA payroll. Other have been named as well, but I’m not prepared to identify them yet. Farrakhan is to coordinate the Blacks and the Muslims to prepare for riots this summer, using any means necessary.”

A paragraph or two more and the whole thing leaves me wondering if this is not just some creative writing.

CIA involvement with Farrakhan (on its bankroll)?! "Any means necessary," melodramatically invoking Malcom X?!

I don't trust BHO, but this seems to be bunk.


It did seem weird that a guy in the DHS would be talking like that at all. Doesn't seem to be something your average joe would have access to. And he makes it sound like Valerie Jerrett is sitting there talking with high level DHS folks just plotting how to stab us in the back, and we have that information leaking to the outside world? But, it is Douglas Hagmann. I can't recall how reliable he has been in the past though, but I used to visit his website quite often. And I think the NWO folks always say that everybody and their brother is on the CIA payroll. Still, seemed interesting enough to still share.

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 01:10 AM

Well, if you ask me... Definitely BS on the bildeberger crap. Not sure on the Valerie Jerrett thing. I could buy Farrakhan being "on the payroll" as Obama & Co. has purged enough resistance elements out of every organization that keeps this country stable. They can afford to stop hiding in plain sight now and show their true colors since there's damn near nothing or nobody to hold them accountable. If Martin Luther King Jr. was associating with communists, I wouldn't put the Farrakhan thing past him.

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 08:34 AM

Well, if you ask me... Definitely BS on the bildeberger crap. Not sure on the Valerie Jerrett thing. I could buy Farrakhan being "on the payroll" as Obama & Co. has purged enough resistance elements out of every organization that keeps this country stable. They can afford to stop hiding in plain sight now and show their true colors since there's damn near nothing or nobody to hold them accountable. If Martin Luther King Jr. was associating with communists, I wouldn't put the Farrakhan thing past him.

It's definitely an example of playing both sides here. They cannot help but pimp around or pretend they are the pimps and they know all the insides of it, or manipulate these against these, if they do not have the insiderist of it. You always have outsider journalists who want to pretend they have the insides of it, and, if they do not, they claim all the same they know better, or they will influence each side and test them against each other, asking the court of public opinion to investigate.

This is the grandiose action of conspiracy theorists and other UFO hacks who say they worked for the Airforce and the CIA and yet never speak the speak let alone ever walked the walk. And no one asks them further "insights". That woman who murdered her children and concocted a story was caught up and made it into total fantasy, to the amazement of a horrified audience, knowing she was crazy and fantasizing that way, but without being able to come up with definite physical proof other than that she was lying about something and pimping this scenery for all its juices. Of course, the same horrific imagination of hers plaid a same part in her horrific enjoyment of what she had done at the time she was doing it, and that was the real link and proof there of her guilt. Only a mind on such fantasy streak can fantasize and disconnect like this and murder stuff... it's a sort of cop out and empowered way out, into madness, in order to accomplish some convenient evil.

You got some strange sick minds out there.

The thing is, the enemy has this obsession on pimping and no real interest in the expertise of the science of the industry. They only want to come on top, even at the cost of the surroundings. This is the essence of the narcissist, and I have had my share of encounters at work with them. They are very difficult people, to say the least. There is not a single minute or second they are not compulsively introspected in any situation. They are best at being left alone and being told what to do, without any further due, cutting their drama off. It's dangerous or foolish to try to teach them to behave, because they will try to teach back instead of learning and giving some credit... and they will laugh if they emotionally catch someone being serious at a job, exploiting this emotion, Alinsky style. He was not a genius per say on some technique, but a maniac who exposed the maniac in action, much like revealing in his book his mental disease, as if despairing at some level, and yet giggling at it like a retard.

The progressist is surprizingly anti-intellectual and anti-sophisticate, and this is why he ultimately sides with the "worker" politics of race and racism in Germany, materialist plain "lebens raumish" as opposed to the French "brain trust type lebensraum". The reason for this simplification is that the communist knows that science is the opposite of politics. Ultimately the political animal is out to rule and cheat in the jungle, going 3D instead of playing by the animals' 2D world, which they manage better or are better graciously tethered at. So, with this realization in mind, they forgo of all intellect and revert to raw stupidity, something between 2D and 3D, cheating now and then when they can or are afforded foolishly by do gooding liberal right wingers. It is one thing to feel sorry for these people, it is another to let them take advantage of it and cheat around to our own danger.

Of course, those who want to have a knock at Napoleon's combined arm approach, a 2D German infantry could be combined into a task force of French 3D thinkers into some strange pimping aristocracy from hell. This is where the occultic and the cheating of the words and wisdoms of the Bible and miracles and revelations come in. And, thus, it still is a matter of "awaiting", of "hope", of rising one's hands in the air in a strange church and demanding wisdom to come through some miracle mean.

Ultimately the rules of the games will be laid out for all to pick at and a real duel of mano e mano will have to endure, in true equality of arms and wisdoms, and then we shall see who is going to dare pick up the arms. Communists accept death of some sort, and there are people who have given up and are already empowered by suicide, while others hold on and wonder if they should stop this or not.

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Posted 06 June 2012 - 11:03 AM

Interesting how the Hammer and sickle is still seeking some type of normalcy, as if it were different and not offensive like the Swastika. They never give up, do they? It's almost as if they strike nostalgic about the existence of the Swastic boot on their faces too. It's what you pay for, with that kind of stupidity.

Check this web site where they design sailboats with Russians, and, oh, surprize surprize, one had to come with a red star and a hammer and sickle. Whatever... people are crazy.

http://www.mxspeeddream.com/main.html

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 08:46 PM

It seems like the Batman shooter was part of some OWS offshoot called the dark or black bloc, but this has been somewhat suppressed. However, interestingly, conspiracy theorists left and right are now abuzz with the issue that he had been receiving DOD funding for his thesis and that the Sikh temple terrorist had been in military PsyOps. Interesting that these two latter facts are being broadcasted. I smell a strange potential set up of the beliefs out there, for future manipulations of oppositions and civil strife. This is making the confusion greater.

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Posted 07 August 2012 - 01:08 AM

It seems like the Batman shooter was part of some OWS offshoot called the dark or black bloc, but this has been somewhat suppressed. However, interestingly, conspiracy theorists left and right are now abuzz with the issue that he had been receiving DOD funding for his thesis and that the Sikh temple terrorist had been in military PsyOps. Interesting that these two latter facts are being broadcasted. I smell a strange potential set up of the beliefs out there, for future manipulations of oppositions and civil strife. This is making the confusion greater.


Indeed, I couldn't help but think that these two events were somehow connected in some way. I'll steer clear of any Alex Jones conspiracy paranoia here, but isn't it within the realm of possibility that some of these shootings (including the Norway indicent) could have been engineered by the reds? I mean, they're more active here than they are at home, and deeply embedded in our institutions - including the military.

The whole subject of Soviet mind control and the like is usually pure fiction, but I'm sure some of it is real. I recall hearing JRN talk about it in depth in one of his radio interviews, so I know there is some legitimacy to the idea that people can be manipulated or even "remotely controlled" to commit ghastly crimes like these. Can anyone comment on this?

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Posted 07 August 2012 - 07:25 PM

Anecdotal evidence seems to suggest that shooting sprees sometimes trigger others on the edge to snap - copycat crimes.

And, it's probably likely that his reported treatment for mental health issues involved medication with psycotropic (sp?) drugs which are infamous for their homicidal & suicidal side effects.

(BTW, based on the dates of his Army time, this guy was not deployed to Iraq or Afghanistan. He was "Chaptered-out" - kicked out - of the Army with an OTH (Other Than Honorable) Discharge. This is the worst administrative (non-judicial) discharge a soldier can receive and it is only given after a full board hearing (second in formality only to a court-martial) wherein much time & effort by the command is exercised; in other words, he was a SERIOUS screw-up and his "pattern of misconduct." Most other soldiers kicked out are quickly & easily dealt with by lesser "chapters" with a non-prejudicial General under Honorable Conditions Discharge. The command obviously felt compelled to go through the extra time & trouble to ensue this guy got the worst administrative discharge as possible. Only a court-martial (a full-blown criminal trial) can adjudge the two types of discharges worse than an OTH: Bad Conduct and Dishonorable Discharges.

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Posted 07 August 2012 - 08:33 PM

Indeed indeed. One cannot get a job or rarely gets a job once one is receiving such discharge. It's pretty much the total disgrace and excommunication from society.



Another thing about the algebra of liberalism. Sometimes I wonder if there is not a kind of liberal who is so despising of America, they would have liked to see Hitler win against America today. Sometimes this envy or admirations for things of racial nature amongst some material obsessed liberals has me wondering if they would have become staunch anticommunists in "another history". To be sure, and to understand the keys to this hidden algebra, would be a way into kind of turning things around in this country in the right direction against communism, buying time in this corruption, sadly. The psychologies, imo, can be mined through messaging and awakening these things. It seems that it is out of spite and frustration that the types like Dixicrats are submitting to Democrates and communists as a way of venging for America's hodge podge's victory over the "superior race" or such concepts of "Superior race". It's like the denial of America of any nationalism is based in such emotionalism that the Soviets have been exploiting, answering the question that Lunev had: why are Americans not so patriotic.



From my experience is that in times of hardship, things go of the NBP in Russia, and folks go back to their natural nationalist roots, because no one is going to take care of you or your children than you - unless one believes in God in earnest and that does not apply in a secular world. One must bear in mind that even a catastrophic alienating misguided betrayal of America by liberals would yield eventually to a sobering up to national ways of thinking. This is why this birth of Obama is so important, because from my experience, foreigners, and especially secular foreigners, invariably do not feel at home in America no matter what and they find it easy to return to their vomit and doing it harm when in positions of power.