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#1 NG874

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Posted 13 September 2011 - 01:57 PM

Hello Fellow TFPers,

Please be sure to check out my essay that I wrote on the Sino-Soviet split deception. It was published on Jeff Nyquist's website.
See: http://www.jrnyquist...viet_Split.html
Two other websites/organizations indicated interest in publishing this essay.
I know its a long essay. Facts are one of the major weapons in our arsenel to disarm and discredit the Left/organized communists/Russia-China supporters. Hope you find it useful and please pass on if you agree with the thesis. Thanks.

#2 Apollo5600

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Posted 13 September 2011 - 03:19 PM

It's a bloody book! But excellent! I have an important test tomorrow for one of my classes so can't read it all, but looks great! What two websites/orgs accept submissions such as this? I've tried to get various things published before (of course, nowhere as useful as this), such as at Reason.com (the libertarians) but they never liked the subject matter.

I've been thinking for a long time that we need to get more TFPers interested in writing scholarly papers like this. It's great work.

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Posted 13 September 2011 - 06:07 PM

Simply superb work!
Many thanks.

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Posted 14 September 2011 - 12:26 PM

Did you run across a series of articles from National Review in your research from around 1960-61, wherein a bunch of authors looked at the Sino-Soviet split? It was a supplement to their normal publication. It is quite good source material from that time, and I think I still have a copy if your interested in reading through it.

#5 NG874

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Posted 14 September 2011 - 04:38 PM

Thanks Apollo and 907! Markolinux: I did not come across the National Review articles from 1960 to 1961. If you can send them to my personal email, I would appreciate it. I will private message to you my personal email address. Thanks!

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Posted 14 September 2011 - 09:58 PM

More than anything, congratulations on the professional, scholarly, and respectable tone in which this was written. So many people, TFP-adherents or not, do not understand that that is the most important thing to bring credibility to any given thesis.

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Posted 26 September 2011 - 11:18 AM

Csissor is a flanking maneuver with "political" dislike flair, in other words a feigned relief/abandon and desertion for an encirclement.

One clenched fist is the joining mop up from the flanks while Russia holds the line. It is obvious that Iran and China are flanking us and that Israel is a decoy target of enervation, a lithmian tester.

But that is the pronouncements of amateurs of warfare. The difficulty is in controling the vortices (ie. the infected blood jelly leaking between the fingers and making the hand impractical). And, Frankly, it is the nationalistoid South and far East which could make them doubt whether Russia would truly hold the line.

I'm willing to bluff Russia into attacking Europe for us obliterating the Mid East and China.

It's not a sustainable manever unless we keep stupid & greedy... and then some. Money is good but not a champion.

This could be so easy wit a bit of faith & "stupid" reaganesque bulliness.

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Posted 29 September 2011 - 09:48 AM

That there will be a Russian Chinese conflict is certain.
When there will be such a conflict is up to the US.
Perhaps the US should go ahead and economically collapse, then offer military aid to China in place of owed moneys in their fight against the Russian monster/mobster!
Of course such a scenario is absurd, which is exactly why it will probably happen.
Looking at the realities of a Chinese Russian conflict is sobering, several hundred million dead in just a few minutes would top anything the commies have done yet, and guarantee Putin a place in the history books forever!
That is, if there were ever any books, ever! Perhaps we could save a few you tube videos from the smoldering mess!

After such a scenario, Putin's biggest problem would be far distant humans mixing him up with that Rasputin guy!

"The Asian Czarist dictator, Rasputin, who ordered and presided over the deaths of near 1 billion human beings in the murky 1600-2100 period of earth's history", just a small footnote in Google's History of the Local Bubble, 3400 BC -2624 AD.

"It was during this time period that the great United Nations Leader, Tasheida Hussane Obama of Mars Colony 3212, permanently banned Scalar Weapons of Mass Destruction, and led us to the "Great Peace" of recent times, prior to the Anakian Wars of the Orion Constellation Civilizations.", followed by another footnote, "The Central Intelligence Agency, an arm of the Illuminati Ruling Council of Goldman Star Empire, was permanently terminated, and all it's Government Employees transferred to the FSB, under the Direct Control of Myeshia Sarcozy Obama Medeved, Interim President of the Interplanetary Monetary Fund, susidiary of Manhatten Chase CITI United Southern Hemisphere Government Services, LTD".

Just think of those poor people 800 years into the future, and we think OUR heads are about to explode trying to figure this mess all out!

NG874, I have rec your work to many others and posted the link to it on quite a few websites/forums, and it has received rave reviews.
Very well done!

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Posted 29 September 2011 - 09:35 PM

That there will be a Russian Chinese conflict is certain.
When there will be such a conflict is up to the US.
Perhaps the US should go ahead and economically collapse, then offer military aid to China in place of owed moneys in their fight against the Russian monster/mobster!
Of course such a scenario is absurd, which is exactly why it will probably happen.
Looking at the realities of a Chinese Russian conflict is sobering, several hundred million dead in just a few minutes would top anything the commies have done yet, and guarantee Putin a place in the history books forever!
That is, if there were ever any books, ever! Perhaps we could save a few you tube videos from the smoldering mess!

After such a scenario, Putin's biggest problem would be far distant humans mixing him up with that Rasputin guy!

"The Asian Czarist dictator, Rasputin, who ordered and presided over the deaths of near 1 billion human beings in the murky 1600-2100 period of earth's history", just a small footnote in Google's History of the Local Bubble, 3400 BC -2624 AD.

"It was during this time period that the great United Nations Leader, Tasheida Hussane Obama of Mars Colony 3212, permanently banned Scalar Weapons of Mass Destruction, and led us to the "Great Peace" of recent times, prior to the Anakian Wars of the Orion Constellation Civilizations.", followed by another footnote, "The Central Intelligence Agency, an arm of the Illuminati Ruling Council of Goldman Star Empire, was permanently terminated, and all it's Government Employees transferred to the FSB, under the Direct Control of Myeshia Sarcozy Obama Medeved, Interim President of the Interplanetary Monetary Fund, susidiary of Manhatten Chase CITI United Southern Hemisphere Government Services, LTD".

Just think of those poor people 800 years into the future, and we think OUR heads are about to explode trying to figure this mess all out!

NG874, I have rec your work to many others and posted the link to it on quite a few websites/forums, and it has received rave reviews.
Very well done!


I think the inevitability of conflict has to do with the strange stability of the leftist evil and mentaly ill mindset. For a leftist, communism is a sort of salvation, an answer to envies and mental conflicts and illness, a sort of comforting thought. It's intractable because, though leftism makes no sense, drives chaos and instability, in the psyche itself, it is very much stabilizing and comforting. It brings up solutions, final solutions.

Eg: They cannot change their mind to another way because their mind is not right in the first place. They can only be at relative peace through this "union" like system of tyrany, ie: imposing others to not minding what the other is doing while minding your business into everyone else's opinion, trying to shape them, ironicaly. Once they have this kind of "solutions", they drive on with it and impose it on others etc. They follow blindly a set of instructions to give while they follow their own instincts without checking themselves, very much like the Existentialist approach of irresponsability described in The Stranger by Camus. "We did not know" etc... and other rationalization helps them keep doing what they do without any feelings of guilt, so long it fits the desires of the hierarchy.

I see it every day talking to liberals who resort to cop outs. (By the way, the New World Order is also a liberal's cop out to not cooperate with a fixing of a crisis if it ever occured. It's like they mess things around and then are ready to blame those fixing it for planning it all, but the media is trying to portray this as some kind of right wing stuff. Liberals know that their own NWO is doomed to fail and they do not want to be blamed for it).

In any case, when MAO talks of capitalists and socialists inevitable meeting in the valley, it is about the reality meeting the small reality of the crazed but stabilized and thus stubbornized mind of the liberal, hardened of heart and what not to boot.

We keep bowing to this bully, kind of laughing it off as if it were yet another tolerable relative who becomes a cross for us to bear, but these people are dangerous. It might be tolerable or even look funny when all else is fine, but if this animal is uncaged and free to go around as pleased when there is no restrictions, it is great mayhem. America does not pay heed anymore to real causes of persecution as it used to, and, instead, for easy money with arabs or chinese, looks the other way.

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Posted 29 September 2011 - 09:51 PM

Hello Fellow TFPers,

Please be sure to check out my essay that I wrote on the Sino-Soviet split deception. It was published on Jeff Nyquist's website.
See: http://www.jrnyquist...viet_Split.html
Two other websites/organizations indicated interest in publishing this essay.
I know its a long essay. Facts are one of the major weapons in our arsenel to disarm and discredit the Left/organized communists/Russia-China supporters. Hope you find it useful and please pass on if you agree with the thesis. Thanks.


Even if this stuff were "past history", it is very edifying to see the extent that crazy people go to allow themselves to power and murder people. For people nowadays to ignore these records is criminal, imo.

I remember talking to a friend of mine who was saying she was going to teach her daughter how to "handle people" and fight. My retort was that it was good mama bear mothering, but a person is not happy 100% constantly power struggling, their whole life wasted thus. There is room for construction and team efforts toward, say, designing healthy systems with others. The mindset of the communist is really causeless warfare for self aggrandizement.

This type of mental illness is far from being eradicated, quite the contrary, because "multiculturalness" as an end unto itself - as opposed to as a tool for business - has exacerbated it. These kinds of unhealthy competitions and sibling rivalries are pathetic. When put into grandiose words of Mao or Krutchev, it's ridiculous but sobering. Evil and madness do exist.

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Posted 30 September 2011 - 07:59 PM

How far can communists kick the can?
I guess we're about to find out!
The shame is, it's our success as a free culture that will allow them to kick it longer distances than ever before!

Evil does exist, hell yes, it's done a good job of blending itself into the surroundings, the culture, the modern multiculture.
It seems to be thriving, hidden in all this political correctness. Manifesting itself all around, everywhere, and anywhere.
Locally, we just had a murder where the lady was dragged behind the vehicle for 6 miles. I still can't wrap my head around it.

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Posted 01 October 2011 - 01:11 AM

How far can communists kick the can?
I guess we're about to find out!
The shame is, it's our success as a free culture that will allow them to kick it longer distances than ever before!

Evil does exist, hell yes, it's done a good job of blending itself into the surroundings, the culture, the modern multiculture.
It seems to be thriving, hidden in all this political correctness. Manifesting itself all around, everywhere, and anywhere.
Locally, we just had a murder where the lady was dragged behind the vehicle for 6 miles. I still can't wrap my head around it.

It's all in the progressism, perhaps. I am surrounded by them these days, eg:

1. this guy ordering from his car at Burger King tells me he does not have enough change and needs 5 cents... yet he had enough cash on hand but did not want to break a 5 dollar bill or something?

2. Mexicans at a bar offer me a drink, which I accept. However they had a ploy to get me on their side and to either make me pay the tab or side with them with the eventual fist fight with the bar tender as they tried to steal beer bottles in their pockets without paying. This airforce guy had been warning me all night not to talk to them, and I did not understand, or was fascinated by how uncomfortable I was with them and wanted to have a look at it further, I am not sure.

3. Other people within my family itself tell me I can come over because I am such a nice guy, inviting me, but then start arguing about groceries and costs and ask me to pay for their food tab. I thought I was invited. Why didn't they ask me first in the first place? Weren't they family after all? I would have given them the money. Instead I left shaking my head.

4. Another one is at work. I am a supervisor but this guy from Nepal with Maoist leanings and with a fascination for Bin Laden's "worries" about the West, keeps trying to get me to his side, flattering me here and there, pushing into my knowledgeability of things, and next thing you know he back stabs me or tries to compromise me, testing my boundaries and asking for free time or ignoring my demands, infighting with others and what not, expecting me to side with him. Passive aggressive behaviors trying to set up for self assumption and manipulative like these grate on me these days.

5. Or more to the point, this black drug dealer. He sees I am not afraid to sit at a bar next to a black guy because I am nice and not racist. So he goes on talking to me about how high he is, which was a lie, and hinting me how this or that girl there likes to smoke weeds, hinting that I can get laid if I bought it for them. All this finagling is unbelievable, but, honestly, that night, I think, ironicaly, he was the only bad manipulator or the most obvious of them all. There was something to this guy's flawed or badly organized way of selling the stuff, but he certainly gave me a strange whif about how I could possibly myself become easily scheming with his support. I felt too comfortable with this, it was very strange, all cynical and buddy with him, giving him a fist tap at the end, as if he had detected my soul like that because I was kind of "new", still. However, suffice it to say, that I can see how drug smuggling is more than drugs, it is a way of manipulating and deceiving people, or of finding baits and tricks and what not to get what you want no matter how. Because, upon further analysis, once I get out of the romantics of it, it was obvious that he was manipulating me into acting like a buddy, mimicking something that I could relate to at work. It was totally devilish, it took me a while to realize the sort of "flattery" or "buddiness" he was playing with and I were not noticing. How easy, indeed, it is to trick someone into evil trades, making them think they can be part of it, manipulating them and then, next thing you know, you have a bullet in the back of your head or you are heading to prison, all set up. So, you think someone is helping you selling the weeds to enemies, but, instead, they are playing a double game and are ready to use that against you. You think they are playing to be part of your team, but in fact they are dragging you to play for their team and then off you.

I do not know what the heck is going on these days, but people surrounding me at every corner I point my head to are starting to irk the heck out of me, everyone scheming and thinking ahead, trying to screw this or that person out of a buck, twisting words, calling you a profiteer or a settler, while they all are union members who need "benefits" and happen to be "refugees"... and it all leads to the eventual dragging death, because, first they play these little test games, then they enslave you and then when confrontation and provocation arises out of "misunderstanding", the hate is built and they drag you behind a car... I think it goes like this.

I once were aggressed in Florida after a Halloween festival from a dark alley by a couple guys who were saying hello and then started cursing at me and my friend. And then we found out there were two other dudes waiting behind a car. The fight started with a Mexican getting set off for "racial reasons", then a white guy came with him against us, and two black guys were waiting behind a car. Wow. A multicultural ambush for you. Fortunately I was with "progressists" in my group who had smelled quickly a rat and started cursing at them. Me, all idiot at the time, was like trying to "defuse" the situation and reason. There was no defusing anything or reason anything, my "buddies" were right on the mark and knew exactly what kind of game was going on. I thought they were drunk, overreacting or too silly to curse like this or to tell me not to trust cops or what not. At the time I did not know what they were trying to teach me and were kind of distant because they were starting to reveal me their affiliations with supremacists... but so it goes that nice people and "Christians" need to figure a thing or two about what is going on in "hell" and, that, indeed, it is around the corner and that we are not the experts necessarily in handling affairs like Iraq or Afghanistan. We need to let them sort it out and only be there facilitating.

And lawyers are so political too. You cannot have any lawyer defend the cause you espouse or yourself, unless you fit their political or group leaning or whatever will make them get a buck easily. It's pathetic.

A part of me is confident that I am not going to be attacked because they are the ones who will be unveiled during the attack as being weak as I do not go for this "do not criticize", "let us not worry, keep shopping without question" type weak society which cannot handle issues or simple study, but only power struggle and begging is their way of life like compulsive animals. However, once one's guard is a bit down or a trick comes around the corner while old or too young to figure, it's like an open house for looting or something. It's crazy.

As a result, I still do not understand a bit why all the progressists say we are saying silly things about China and Russia. I think they know, because, if China and RUssia were to scold them for being stupid and caught, they'd admit it right away to them: "yes we knew, now send our worthless 'selves' to the gulags". They should know better because they pull the same tricks, they are "satan's children" and know "satan", so to speak, better than we do. No, they still cannot seem to be able to help themselves or they are too cowardly is what it is, and they play this "game" where they pretend they do not understand. It's ridiculous, like a fat person which cannot understand it cannot have its hands in the cookie jar anymore, or a deviant who cannot be told anymore he or she cannot have a grab at this or that money or free profit consuming.

They are organized, ie. conspiring. It takes organizing then against them in the end, setting up situation where they have to resist arrest or attack us because for what we prosecute them about, ie. to that which we believe, and they get canned for attacking.