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#1 bm_cali

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Posted 22 March 2010 - 08:37 PM

Oswald Spengler posited a cyclical view of history.

A great people will arise from relative obscurity. There will be an era of growth. A Golden Age is reached. Then the onset of decline. Then, ruin.

The cycle repeats.

One must go back much further than November 2008 to identify when our current decline began.

The things that led to the current bread and circuses mentality realistically began around the turn of the 20th century. The advent of so called "Progressivism" was a warning wave. It was a Western, capitalist version of the "perfectibility of Man on Earth."

Mankind never seems to lack for opportunities to embark on fools' errands.

If only we could do X, life would be more fair / easy / civilized / etc.

But this flies in the face of the reality that Man is fallen.

Hard lessons await.

What a sad juncture we have reached.

From the New Deal to the Great Society to (name TBD).

We never learn.

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Posted 22 March 2010 - 11:54 PM

We've never had more potential leaders, with military experience, than at present:



I realize the reference is to a past war. Still, this song brings a tear to my eye.

I cannot help thinking about the glorious warriors among us, and, fighting for us thousands of miles away.

So many fine soldiers.

My heart rises for my homeland, when I contemplate these great heroes.

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Posted 23 March 2010 - 12:13 AM

My words would only corrupt this:

http://www.youtube.c...feature=related

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Posted 23 March 2010 - 04:52 PM

Excellent point BM. It comes down to worldview. Utopian VS Judeo-Christian - acknowledging the depravity and fallen nature of man) It sickens me to hear my colleagues (I'm the lone conservative Christian in a public high school science dept) express their opinions from their utopian perspective, completely ignoring the lessons from history. Well, there will be a day of reckoning at some point. How much pain our nation will endure until then is unknown. If not for my faith, well, I just don't know. Keep the faith, brother. As they say, put your trust in God, and keep your ammo dry...

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Posted 24 March 2010 - 11:21 PM

These 'incidents' have me concerned. I think they're frame jobs. The 'ni**er' comment was either a plant in the audience or a lie. The 'cut gas line' is so preposterous it was clearly staged, same with the broken windows.

It seems like they're getting frustrated that none of the American patriots are committing violence, so they're beginning to frame them. They must be on a schedule or something.

What's worrisome is that they are then trying to connect these staged incidents with conservative leaders. I think they are going to slowly escalate these incidents until it reaches a point where they can 'justify' restricting conservative leaders' speech somehow. This is indeed worrisome.

Any thoughts on this? Do you think the recent violence is organic and real or fake and staged? To me, it has all the trappings of them starting a new, intensified campaign against the First Amendment in this country. I feel like we could VERY soon be looking at a 'incitement of hatred' type of bill.

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Posted 25 March 2010 - 09:04 AM

my immediate thought about those comments was "provocation," too. it's hard to believe any protestor that close to the cameras would fail to understand that such comments would boost the socialists' gambit. in fact, it's *really* hard to believe. especially n*gger. f*ggot, possibly. besides, barney frank qualifies. but on tv? i'm sorry: it was a provocation, as are these anonymous death threats to pro-healthcare congressmen.

things are really picking up domestically these days eh? i think we just crossed the threshold. "democrats" now know that the electorate will have to accept whatever the party votes for. apparently student loan co-option was part of the health bill. so now those will be socialized. the commerce clause is being used against the competitive environment now. this is worrying.

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Posted 25 March 2010 - 12:59 PM

These 'incidents' have me concerned. I think they're frame jobs. The 'ni**er' comment was either a plant in the audience or a lie. The 'cut gas line' is so preposterous it was clearly staged, same with the broken windows.

It seems like they're getting frustrated that none of the American patriots are committing violence, so they're beginning to frame them. They must be on a schedule or something.

What's worrisome is that they are then trying to connect these staged incidents with conservative leaders. I think they are going to slowly escalate these incidents until it reaches a point where they can 'justify' restricting conservative leaders' speech somehow. This is indeed worrisome.

Any thoughts on this? Do you think the recent violence is organic and real or fake and staged? To me, it has all the trappings of them starting a new, intensified campaign against the First Amendment in this country. I feel like we could VERY soon be looking at a 'incitement of hatred' type of bill.



my immediate thought about those comments was "provocation," too. it's hard to believe any protestor that close to the cameras would fail to understand that such comments would boost the socialists' gambit. in fact, it's *really* hard to believe. especially n*gger. f*ggot, possibly. besides, barney frank qualifies. but on tv? i'm sorry: it was a provocation, as are these anonymous death threats to pro-healthcare congressmen.

things are really picking up domestically these days eh? i think we just crossed the threshold. "democrats" now know that the electorate will have to accept whatever the party votes for. apparently student loan co-option was part of the health bill. so now those will be socialized. the commerce clause is being used against the competitive environment now. this is worrying.



I absolutely 100% agree. I've been wondering if this could be the beginnings of a coordinated attack on the first and second amendments together. I can hear Obama now: "To ensure safe and secure elections, we must necessarily curtail the hate speech and those who are registered gun owners must report to our new 'safe' voting polls which will be attended by our new 'freedom monitors' (read armed agents) and all disturbances will be dealt with swiftly." or something to that effect. Of course the monitors will be the black panthers, SEIU members, and whatever ACORN is calling itself now. Maybe IRS agents too.
I don't put anything past this gang.
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Posted 31 March 2010 - 10:29 PM

There really are (faux) "Right Wing" radical groups who foment and commit violent acts. There really are racist groups doing the same. There really are "Christian Militias" doing the same.

William Laquer did an excellent job of describing such forms of terrorism in his writings but for one important detail.

Namely, he neglected to describe how Spetsnaz / GRU would try to manipulate such groups.

Divide and conquer.

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Posted 31 March 2010 - 11:31 PM

There really are (faux) "Right Wing" radical groups who foment and commit violent acts. There really are racist groups doing the same. There really are "Christian Militias" doing the same.

William Laquer did an excellent job of describing such forms of terrorism in his writings but for one important detail.

Namely, he neglected to describe how Spetsnaz / GRU would try to manipulate such groups.

Divide and conquer.

The vengence issue is indeed a big problem. The enemy is counting on us getting angry at people instead of at industries or bodies of laws to which people obey. It is interesting that to this day %90+ laws from Hitler are still on German books, so to speak, yet you have those Nuremberg trials and bureaus whose sole aim is to hunt down war criminals. I am not against hunting war criminals per-say, but it is a bit ridiculous that, given that the laws on the books and how wrong they are the disease's origin (and that these should be hunted at in the first place) we are not going to the source. Why do we have to hunt these criminals then becomes ever more so important since if they are let loose, they can still rely on these laws when free to do damage and to cling to for rebuilding of their murder for profit industries.

This is not lost on the mind of the enemy and is where the manipulation starts at. We write bad laws, bureaucrates rely on them to keep jobs like a Union (and their "leadership" "tell all" positions), and criminals multiply. We go after the criminals (symptoms) and we go bankrupt as a result. It's a danse cycle (Spiral of death) that some lawyer men out there count on for revenues, most probably - unscrupulous guilt fomenting and testing of people like some kind of sick school teacher.

The Constitution's "weakness" also stems from the fact that it must be defended and relies on noble acts of chivalry. Socialist laws on the other hand seem at first be dressed like providing fountains that people need for subsistance. It is very perverse because it invariably leads to slavery and abuse at large as a result, as well as wrong expectations. When a Union loses money and a chivalrous patriotic base, it will either autodestruct or turn to Hitler style methods. Mark my words, those "death panels" of health care will enslave the poor and murder the rich for their money they are hiding. The criteria is not going to be old age, it's going to be getting some money, and, if today they know you have money and they need it, they will find you a death panel to kill you to get their hands on it. I have seen it done time and again by unscrupulous lawyers leveling bogus charges on the wealthy in the name of equality.

Hence we arrive at such situations of provocations we see today.
{ASIDE: There is something primal and stupid to the crowds and thus the body politic manipulations which have escaped us but not the enemy. I remember that joke but true tourist story about not speaking Portuguese and being happy and in great terms around Brasilian women, smiling about: the year after that, speaking Portuguese and understanding them, he could not get any dates anymore.

Even when a leveraged sin interest is in play, a need or a want of some sorts, people will make up their minds, and no matter how that person is explicitly horrible to them, they still do not believe and stick around like a baby ducky to a mama ducky. It's frightening how easily this kind of stuff can be manipulated: people have primal altars which when attacked or something because they are corrupt, it makes them very angry.

I never could understand that lack of mental development or where it came from. It's like they are single criteria oriented and their minds are made up.}

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Posted 31 March 2010 - 11:31 PM

Speaking of which, here's a Militia guy's take on the "Hutaree":

Tuesday, March 30, 2010
Hutaree Raid: An extremely well-executed federal operation aimed at the threat represented by the revitalized militia & Oath Keepers.
As a powerful political counter-stroke it was masterful. You have to give them credit. Putting a provocateur into a group of not-very-well wrapped Millennialists (see Churchill, To Shake Their Guns in the Tyrants Face) and assisting them to:

a. build and distribute pipe bombs and

b. talk about plots to kill cops that involve killing innocents, family members, etc.,

was well thought out, perfectly targeted, craftily planned, brilliantly executed and impeccably timed.

I realized this when I was outside talking to the three cops who showed up at my door to collect the bird**** Easter card. To begin with, the phone rang. Would I please meet the officer outside? Sure.


http://sipseystreeti...l-executed.html

As an explanation for one part of that blog post, the "bird**** Easter card" (censorship courtesy of me) is a reference to a letter he received that contained a brown and white powder which he called the police about. This fella "Mike" has been quoted and interviewed by the news (and also accused of being a British spy by Alex Jones for some reason). Edit: Oh, and I think he's the guy who is encouraging people to throw bricks at the Democrat's offices. Whatever the case, the timing of this Hutaree thing coincides beautifully with the Democrat's new "Conservatives=Racist terrorist" strategy, which I find suspicious. I wonder how long they sat on this before they chose to strike? Or if these people are being targeted for their legal gun-ownership and some remarks of poor taste made in the presence of the FBI plant.