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#61 Apollo5600

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Posted 05 January 2011 - 02:56 PM

"Prominent national defense consultant" John Wheeler the third was found dead today, his body stuffed in a garbage bin and found later as it tumbled out of what had served as his temporary grave. Witnesses claimed he appeared confused and lost earlier in the day, and had claimed he had been robbed.

http://apnews.myway..../D9KI6GE00.html

According to the article, he had served in three previous Republican administrations, and had been involved in defending against cyber attacks. No one knows why he was killed, where he was killed or when he was killed as of yet.

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Posted 15 April 2011 - 07:58 AM

Man recruited fake army in immigration scam, prosecutors say
Hmmmmmmmmm......
"Resistance to tyranny is obedience to God." Thomas Jefferson
You can twist perceptions, reality won't budge. Rush 'Show Don't Tell'
"The best is yet to come..." Barack Obama, re-election victory speech, 11-6-2012

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Posted 23 June 2011 - 09:37 AM

Obama releases 30 million barrels from the U.S. strategic petroleum reserves, resulting in a market plunge of crude oil. The Obama administration's reasoning was the war in Libya that has been going on for months which has lead to 1.5 million barrels lost per day -- so they say. So, yes, it makes perfect sense to release only 15 days worth -- and in a non-emergency.

At least Soros made money on the market plunge.

My question is: Is this a new precedent?: To get rid of the reserves over time due to manufactured crises? I don't even want to know what happens when it's all gone.

We only have 726.5 million barrels and we just reduced it by 5% (696.5m now).

Obama ready to release oil from petroleum reserve
Obama ready to release oil from petroleum reserve to offset Mideast turmoil, high energy use

On Thursday June 23, 2011, 9:34 am

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Obama administration has decided to release 30 million barrels of oil from the U.S. Strategic Petroleum Reserve as part of a broader international effort to pump more 60 million barrels onto the world market over the next month.

U.S. Energy Secretary Steven Chu said the release of oil is a response to oil supply disruptions caused by turmoil in the Middle East and North Africa, including Libya.

The administration said the uprising in Libya has resulted in a loss of about 1.5 million barrels of oil a day. The release comes as the United States approaches a period of high energy use in July and August.

High oil prices have increased the cost of gasoline, contributing to an economic slowdown and putting increased political pressure on President Barack Obama.



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Posted 26 June 2011 - 03:13 AM

To be honest with you, I always did believe there were sinister intentions behind opening the floodgates in order to drive up prices resulting from damaged farmland. I guess I was wrong in the latter but not the former.

Now Obama's boss is scooping up farmland like there's no tomorrow in Missouri after having flooded out farm owners...

Look Who’s Buying Up Flood Ravaged Farm Land

Cattle commodities broker Ann writes:

Two HUGE intel leads in my email box this morning from way-back contacts that I’ve had for years, that are actually somewhat connected concepts.

1. File this one under “Now It All Makes Sense”. A Missouri farming and ranching contact just got off a conference call wherein he was informed that the federal government is sending out letters to all of the flooded out farmers in the Missouri River flood plain and bottoms notifying them that the Army Corps of Engineers will offer to BUY THEIR LAND.

Intentionally flood massive acreage of highly productive farmground. Destroy people’s communities and homes. Catch them while they are desperate and afraid and then swoop in and buy the ground cheap. Those evil sons of bitches.

2. Speaking of evil sons of bitches, George Soros appears to be “investing” in farmground through the same puppet company that he used to get into the grain elevator and fertilizer business. The company is called Ospraie Capital Management and is buying up farmground in a joint venture with Teays River Investments as a partner. Here is that announcement:

Click Here

Okay. Here’s the connection. This Ospraie outfit was a hedge fund specializing in commodities that was started and run by some cocky child who didn’t know how to trade bear markets and got his butt kicked into next week in the grain market of 2008. He also lost a fortune trying to trade RARE EARTH METALS. In fact, it was so bad that he had to shut his fund down because he had promised his investors that he would give them all of their investment money back if the fund lost more than 30% in one year. Whoopsie.

But it appears that Soros swooped in and saved the day because this Ospraie is the “co-investor” with Soros that bought the remnants of ConAgra’s trading operation and renamed it… Gavilon. In the industry, it is widely acknowledged that Ospraie IS Soros. That three-page article citation is here, copy and paste the URL into your address bar:

http://money.cnn.com..._demos.fortune/
index.htm

As you probably remember, Gavilon just recently bought both DeBruce Grain out of Kansas City and the biggest grain elevator company in the Pacific Northwest, thus making Soros (who is the money behind Gavilon through both his own Soros Fund Management AND his de facto control of Ospraie) the third-largest grain company in the U.S. with 280 million bushels of storage capacity, behind only Archer Daniels Midland (542 million bushels storage capacity) and Cargill (344 million bushels storage capacity). That citation is here:

http://www.world-gra.....2/A powerful%
20signal.aspx?p=1

Bottom line: Soros, through Ospraie, is buying up farmground. Please also note that the hotlink citation above is dated June 26, 2009. My contact says this has been going on for two years – and also remember what I told you about farmground prices inflating wildly, especially in Illinois. I have personally confirmed farmground in Illinois selling for $13,000 per acre within the last month, whereas that same kind of ground in Illinois was going for $5500 per acre the day Obama was inaugurated.

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Two days ago, Ann posted the following on her website.

Missouri Basin Flooding: 100% Intentional
Posted by Ann Barnhardt – June 22, AD 2011 10:07 AM MST
The Army Corps of Engineers in collusion with Marxist-Environmentalists have engineered a flood scenario that will, is, and already has killed people and will result in property damage in the multi-multi billions of dollars. And it is all intentional.

Read “The Purposeful Flooding of America’s Heartland” HERE at AmericanThinker.com

The excuse is saving the wetland habitat of the blue-butted water auk or some taurusfimus like that.

Two points:

1. I’ll say what no one else will about the Army Corps of Engineers: that’s where all the C- state school engineering students end up. Let that reality compound over 30-40 years and you would be FAR better off letting Terry down at the local machining shop or Ricky over t’ the diesel garage run the Missouri River dam system.

TERRY AND RICKY HAVE COMMON SENSE.
TERRY AND RICKY HAVE PRACTICAL SKILL, KNOWLEDGE AND ABILITY.
TERRY AND RICKY ARE DECENT HUMAN BEINGS WHO WOULD NEVER, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, ALLOW PEOPLE TO BE KILLED AND DISPLACED.
TERRY AND RICKY HATE COMMUNISTS.

2. None of this is ever going to stop until We The People start arresting these people, trying them for treason, and then putting them in prison for the rest of their lives. This will never, ever stop unless there are massive, massive personal consequences for these people.



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Posted 28 August 2011 - 03:48 PM

Before you guys click the links and read on, I'd like to make it clear that I don't propagate the nonsense from the "What Does It Mean" website and I haven't checked out the second homepage from the article I will be linking up. The main reason I'm posting this is to ask if anyone knows a seismologist that can verify the claim from the second link. If I'm right, I think Babs had some experience, predictions with this or such...

I check out the first website for the news linked below the nonsense stories, but thought this story was of interest with all the nuclear smuggling stuff we've been talking about. I believe this was posted before the earthquake:

Russia Reports Nuclear Explosions Hit Vast US Military Tunnel Network

Then on the same website I found this article linked:

Seismic evidence reveals underground nuclear detonation south of Washington DC.

Skip it all if you're not interested, but just for curiosity's sake I'd like to know a little bit more about the 'quake' but I'm no earthquake expert and don't know how to interpret the charts... It's just something that made me go hmmm...

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Posted 29 August 2011 - 05:00 PM

I dont know about those links, but I was also wondering about this when I heard someone report on CNBC the DC quake was unusually "shallow." I know earthquake nukes are supposed to be ridiculous, but why? Is it because the amount of energy necessary is way more than a nuke produces, or that it would be impossible to conceal the nuke characteristics? I just do 't know very much and after those engineers are pretty clever!

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Posted 29 August 2011 - 07:56 PM

Before you guys click the links and read on, I'd like to make it clear that I don't propagate the nonsense from the "What Does It Mean" website and I haven't checked out the second homepage from the article I will be linking up. The main reason I'm posting this is to ask if anyone knows a seismologist that can verify the claim from the second link. If I'm right, I think Babs had some experience, predictions with this or such...

I check out the first website for the news linked below the nonsense stories, but thought this story was of interest with all the nuclear smuggling stuff we've been talking about. I believe this was posted before the earthquake:

Russia Reports Nuclear Explosions Hit Vast US Military Tunnel Network

Then on the same website I found this article linked:

Seismic evidence reveals underground nuclear detonation south of Washington DC.

Skip it all if you're not interested, but just for curiosity's sake I'd like to know a little bit more about the 'quake' but I'm no earthquake expert and don't know how to interpret the charts... It's just something that made me go hmmm...



I was read into some of this stuff a while back, and have been in a few of the shelters on the East Coast. FWIW -- I have no reason to believe this story.

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Posted 29 August 2011 - 08:58 PM

I was read into some of this stuff a while back, and have been in a few of the shelters on the East Coast. FWIW -- I have no reason to believe this story.


That Saarcha Faals, or however you spell the name, is complete lunacy. From time to time they predict the coming apocalypse and, for a few weeks leading up to it, sell their books, ask for donations for the "sisters", etc. One would think if the world was ending, they wouldn't ask for donations or ask money for their work! They look at the news and create fantasy story lines into it, none of which ever manifest in the ways they predict.

As for the Nuke thing, I am no expert, but when the North Koreans were testing their nukes I read an article stating they can tell the difference between an Earth quake and a nuke. They also have ways to detect the radiation, I believe, even though it is beneath the Earth. Even if the U.S. covered it up, some geologist out there in the world would not have.

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Posted 30 August 2011 - 04:15 AM

That Saarcha Faals, or however you spell the name, is complete lunacy. From time to time they predict the coming apocalypse and, for a few weeks leading up to it, sell their books, ask for donations for the "sisters", etc. One would think if the world was ending, they wouldn't ask for donations or ask money for their work! They look at the news and create fantasy story lines into it, none of which ever manifest in the ways they predict.

As for the Nuke thing, I am no expert, but when the North Koreans were testing their nukes I read an article stating they can tell the difference between an Earth quake and a nuke. They also have ways to detect the radiation, I believe, even though it is beneath the Earth. Even if the U.S. covered it up, some geologist out there in the world would not have.


Yeah, the earthquake/nuke thing is what I was mostly interested in. I have no interest in Sucha Fail or what he/she has to say but wanted to see if we have anyone here on the board with any seismograph know-how. Other than that, the stories seem to make good Tom Clancy'ish novels.

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Posted 02 October 2011 - 05:28 PM

I saw on Drudge that Roseanne Barr was recently on Russia Today, in her latest attempt to gain attention by being over-the-top controversial. This time, she's supposedly running for president and using the RT spotlight to talk about her platform.

Roseanne Barr: Behead Bankers, Rich Who Won't Give Up Wealth

In a nutshell, she said that there should be a government-enforced maximum wage of 100 million dollars, and that bankers and "the wealthy" who can't live on that should be put into reeducation camps or beheaded.

There's nothing particularly shocking here, especially considering Roseanne's pathetic and often stomach-turning attempts to be noticed. If you remember the 2009 photoshoot in which she wore a Nazi uniform and ate "burnt Jew cookies", this is barely worth rolling your eyes over.

Still, there are some familiar threads here with the RT connection and so on. I'm half-seriously wondering how long it will be before she turns up on Alex Jones, professing her love for Ron Paul.

Since it is 100% controlled by the Russian government, I think it would be interesting to examine the process by which someone ends up on Russia Today.

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Posted 13 October 2011 - 04:11 AM

Ted Turner who was previously the largest land owner in America is now only the second largest land owner -- second to his friend John Malone.

John Malone Now Biggest Landowner in the U.S.

Ted Turner has lost his crown.

According to the newly released 2011 Land Report 100, which ranks the top land barons, John Malone is now America’s biggest individual landowner. The 70-year-old cable pioneer and chairman of Liberty Media now owns 2.2 million acres, after purchasing more than 1 million acres of timberland in Maine and New Hampshire earlier this year.

The purchase, which drew fire from plenty of environmentalists in New England, vaulted him past the longtime number one, Mr. Turner, who owns slightly more than 2 million acres. Mr. Malone and Mr. Turner are longtime friends and fellow cowboy-hat wearers from the cable world.

Mr. Malone started snapping up land in the 1990s, buying in Colorado, New Mexico and Wyoming. He bought the 290,100-acre Bell Ranch in 2010 and uses it to raise cattle and horses. Mr. Malone said his main interest is land conservation and maintaining the sustainable forestry programs with the New England parcel.

Mr. Malone told the Land Report that his love of land is due to his Irish genes. “A certain land hunger comes from being denied property ownership for so many generations.”

Now is the time to buy land, he said, because of low borrowing costs and low prices. He added that real estate “is a pretty decent hedge on the devaluation of currency.”

Apparently Mr. Turner isn’t upset at losing the number one spot. In fact, Mr. Malone said Mr. Turner “first gave me this land-buying disease” on a helicopter ride on Mr. Turner’s ranch.
Mr. Malone is now looking for another huge purchase in the Northeast and Canada, according to the Land Report.

Some might worry that Mr. Malone’s purchase may ease America back to its more feudal days when the rich owned most of the land. Environmentalists fret about an era of “Kingdom Buyers.” Others may see them as the most responsible long-term stewards. Either way, the wealthy are likely to continue looking at large tracts of land as the safest long-term, hard assets at a time of extreme market volatility and low borrowing costs.

Do you think the wealthy will be good land stewards?



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Posted 19 February 2012 - 09:00 PM

Something of interest regarding the 'underwear bomber' incident a couple years back, coming from a witness who is also a lawyer:



Victim Impact Statement


by Kurt Haskell



Every victim of a crime in Michigan is entitled to make a statement in open court regarding the impact of the crime on their life. The statement is limited to the victim's physical, emotional and financial well being as it relates to the crime. Keep that in my as you read my statement. Below is a copy of the victim impact statement I gave today at the Underwear Bomber sentencing hearing. When reading my statement, keep in mind that I am a practicing attorney in the State of Michigan. In addition, I regularly practice in the Court the hearings are taking place at and therefore, I am somewhat limited as to what I can say. We were limited to 5 minutes each.

I wish to thank the Court for allowing me these 5 minutes to make my statement. My references to the government in this statement refer to the Federal Government excluding this Court and the prosecution. On Christmas Day 2009, my wife and I were returning from an African safari and had a connecting flight through Amsterdam. As we waited for our flight, we sat on the floor next to the boarding gate. What I witnessed while sitting there and subsequent events have changed my life forever. While I sat there, I witnessed Umar dressed in jeans and a white t-shirt, being escorted around security by a man in a tan suit who spoke perfect American English and who aided Umar in boarding without a passport. The airline gate worker initially refused Umar boarding until the man in the tan suit intervened. The event meant nothing to me at the time. Little did I know that Umar would try to kill me a few hours later as our flight approached Detroit. The final 10 minutes of our flight after the attack were the worst minutes of my life. During those 10 minutes I sat paralyzed in fear. Unfortunately, what happened next has had an even greater impact on my life and has saddened me further.

When we landed, I was shocked that our plane taxied up to the gate. I was further shocked that we were forced to sit on the plane for 20 minutes with powder from the so called bomb all over the cabin. The officers that boarded the plane did nothing to ensure our safety and did not check for accomplices or other explosive devices. Several passengers trampled through parts of the bomb as they exited the plane. We were then taken into the terminal with our unchecked carry on bags. Again, there was no concern for our safety even though Umar told the officers that there was another bomb on board as he exited the plane. I wondered why nobody was concerned about our safety, accomplices or other bombs and the lack of concern worried me greatly. I immediately told the FBI my story in order to help catch the accomplice I had seen in Amsterdam. It soon became obvious that the FBI wasn't interested in what I had to say, which upset me further. For one month the government refused to admit the existence of the man in the tan suit before changing course and admitting his existence in an ABC News article on January 22, 2010. That was the last time the government talked about this man. The video that would prove the truth of my account has never been released. I continue to be emotional upset that the video has not been released. The Dutch police, meanwhile, in this article (show article), also confirmed that Umar did not show his passport in Amsterdam which also meant that he didn't go through security as both are in the same line in Amsterdam. It upsets me that the government refuses to admit this fact.

I became further saddened from this case, when Patrick Kennedy of the State Department during Congressional hearings, admitted that Umar was a known terrorist, was being followed, and the U.S. allowed him into the U.S. so that it could catch Umar's accomplices. I was once again shocked and saddened when Michael Leiter of the National Counter terrorism Center admitted during these same hearings that intentionally letting terrorists into the U.S. was a frequent practice of the U.S. Government. I cannot fully explain my sadness, disappointment and fear when I realized that my government allowed an attack on me intentionally.

During this time, I questioned if my country intentionally put a known terrorist onto my flight with a live bomb. I had many sleepless nights over this issue. My answer came shortly thereafter. In late 2010, the FBI admitted to giving out intentionally defective bombs to the Portland Christmas Tree Bomber,the Wrigley Field Bomber and several others. Further, Mr. Chambers was quoted in the Free Press on January 11, 2011 when he indicated that the government's own explosives experts had indicated that Umar's bomb was impossibly defective. I wondered how that could be. Certainly, I thought, Al Qaeda wouldn't go through all of the trouble to plan such an attack only to provide the terrorist with an impossibly defective bomb.

I attended nearly all of the pretrial hearings. At the hearing on January 28, 2011, I was greatly disappointed by the prosecution's request to block evidence from Mr. Chambers "as it could then be able to be obtained by third parties, who could use it in a civil suit against the government". It really bothered me that the government apparently was admitting to wrongdoing of some kind as it admitted that it was concerned it would be sued. It further upset me to know that the government was putting its own interests ahead of those of the passengers.

When I attended the jury selection hearings, I questioned why versions of the same two questions kept coming up, those being:

1. Do you think whether you'll be able to tell whether something is actually a bomb? and
2. Do you realize that sometimes the media doesn't always tell the truth?

I continued to be greatly saddened at this point as I felt the truth continued to be hidden.

When Umar listed me as his only witness, I was happy to testify, not on his behalf, but on behalf of the truth. I never expected to testify, as my eyewitness account would have been too damaging to the myth that the government and media are putting forward. A mere 5 days after I was announced as a witness, there was an inexplicable guilty plea which exasperated me as I no longer would be testifying.

In closing I will just say that regardless of how the media and government try to shape the public perception of this case, I am convinced that Umar was given an intentionally defective bomb by a U.S. Government agent and placed on our flight without showing a passport or going through security, to stage a false terrorist attack to be used to implement various government policies.

The effect this matter has had on my life has been astounding and due to this case, I will never trust the government in any matter, ever.

In regards to sentencing, nothing I've said excuses the fact that Umar tried to kill me. He has waived his valid claim to the entrapment defense. Umar, you are not a great Muslim martyr, you are merely a "Patsy". I ask the court to impose the mandatory sentence.



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Posted 20 February 2012 - 11:29 AM

When a child first learns the difference between the truth and a lie that is the beginning of wisdom. When the child chooses to ignore the truth that is the beginning of lies. There is someone on this board who has the 'tag line", "You can twist perception, but reality won't budge." How very true. Sad that we as "adults can't have the wisdom of an honest child. The most honest words in history have been uttered by innocent children. Their perception is based on reality.They see it as it is.If only I still had the wisdom of a child.
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Posted 20 February 2012 - 01:09 PM

When a child first learns the difference between the truth and a lie that is the beginning of wisdom. When the child chooses to ignore the truth that is the beginning of lies. There is someone on this board who has the 'tag line", "You can twist perception, but reality won't budge." How very true. Sad that we as "adults can't have the wisdom of an honest child. The most honest words in history have been uttered by innocent children. Their perception is based on reality.They see it as it is.If only I still had the wisdom of a child.


I'm not sure if that was some sort of praise or a cheap shot. The post was straight from an eye-witness of events and their version of them transpiring. Hence forth, why it's in the "Things that make you go hmmm" thread.

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Posted 21 February 2012 - 11:03 AM

Something of interest regarding the 'underwear bomber' incident a couple years back, coming from a witness who is also a lawyer:

I have never really understood the "catch and release" idea. I know the KGB used it to find where dissidents got shelter. In Afghanistan it is the MO, and even the direction finders of trigger men in vehicles are not forwarded to soldiers but back to the CIA. Why? Wall Mart uses it too to build cases of theft, and sometimes they wait until the guy steals $50,000 before raiding his house. Now, why do they let some people speak up? Others not? And why a citizen pulling a stunt like this would not be caught and released, unless he made them believe he had help or something. Then you have other cases, like McVeigh, in which the guy is promptly executed. Go figure.

I think this was a catch and release attempt that was botched up... but it does resemble the sort of Fast and Furious scandal going on... however, in Fast and FUrious, the government itself did directly acknowledge it as being a conspiracy against private gun owners. So, if there is a conspiracy, our government will say, "yeah, it is, so what".

No, what is concerning the most is how disorganized the right and the bourgeois are in setting up consulting firms for the government. A government agent cannot change the government from within, because, ethicaly, it means you run away from your job and tell somebody what they need to do. Trozky called a kibitzer. Basicaly, you do not take risks, you avoid the risks of your job. Communists thrive in that kind of chaos, and, even if it is to courageously say something, you basicaly die, leave a hole, risk or are seen as a coward and liability.

So, you need outside counselling and consultants as a government. THis is why they hire Planned Parenthood and fund them to direct national health care. Because of the religion label of the CAtholics, now the Catholics' advice can be disregarded. Yet it does not prevent them, once they infiltrate, say, the YWCA, to also hire women's christian organizations to influence and consult. You even have "Greek" Orthodox churches do that, and Stephanopoulos is one such example of idiot who believe in the Dr. Spock treatment of OBama and who advises media and government and Obama for his new policies.

A site like this one or strategiccrisis.com have to stand there in the meantime to try to consult for them, but it is hard to assume given the intellectual pogrom we have been under, as well as fear factor psychological factor. Interestingly, the feeling of godliness and narcissism that was earned at the tree of good and evil makes one very insecure and fearful because of the reality of our physical limitations and mortality. DC is infected by senses of godliness and that brings up cowardice instead of faith...

Now, it is clear the enemy will fail, but, in the meantime, it's going to be one heck of a cross to bear. It's not about tit for tat retaliation and sibling rivalries with government or the left, it is about a clear leadership and mature counseling of our government, giving it eyes.

When we hear BushII taking advice from Putin and saying "he makes sense", you got to cringe as in a "you should be the one telling him what to do". Come on, this is basic army leadership 101 for NCOs, but our officers never have to be tested on this, and even generals admit they cannot do it, and they are just relegated as garrison cleanliness inspectors separated from any troop.

Same thing in this situation: who is advising the FBI on how to handle the affairs and perceptions of airline safety? Who are they taking advice from. The way they botched this operation tells me someone messed with them and they have absolutely no idea what is going on or what they should do next, and they thus do as they are told. PEople say the government is conspiring... well, this is like saying a private is conspiring when in fact he is only doing what he is told to do within the limited angles of his duties.

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Posted 21 February 2012 - 08:32 PM


I'm not sure if that was some sort of praise or a cheap shot. The post was straight from an eye-witness of events and their version of them transpiring. Hence forth, why it's in the "Things that make you go hmmm" thread.



It was intended as praise. Praise of a mind that can sift through myriad mounds of disinformation, and come to sound conclusions. it was not to be construed as implying the simplistic mind of a child, but that there is the light of keen observation, without preconceived opinion or bias.
If "power flows from the barrel of a gun." Then deterrence drops from the belly of a plane.

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 02:22 PM

It is the difference between the original child and the "growing" childlish child demanding that the parent be a slave to it, paying for everything and expecting it, this child at war with separation and fending for himself and by himself.

Indeed, to a child of uncorrupted age, a uniform matters not, to a certain extent. It sees things as they are and communicates with the person as the person is. Later on the emphasis on the superficial is distorting things as he discovers colors and what not.

It is interesting to see that liberals cling to their ideals as if it were just a cloth. In the end, whether it is a war against men, white people or christians or whatever they label, it does not matter. It is about the individual's weak character. Progressivism, islamic issues, homophobia, this is whatever, this is all a uniform they don, because, in the end it's "YOU" the problem.

All these individuals ultimately hide behind these issues as individualistic criminals, the rest is a sort of language uniform they don on in order to keep safety in numbers and fool each other in this sort of psychedelic or brainwashing "clothing".

The way the arguments absurdly devolve in the media is ridiculous, where you now have liberals caught in the wrong place and yet ready to become even more fanatic than the islam fanatics themselves because they want at the end of the day to not admit they were wrong. THe concept of hardening of heart is well expounded in Moses vs. Pharoh. As crazy as it is, it makes it look logical of a end result of not having to behave if you do not have to, making the other side look addicted, in love or desperate.

I can hear the "growing" "progressing" child starting to cry when punished: "I promise I won't do it" and yet doing it again. Or the one thinking that he does not have to be good, even though he knows what good and bad is, and, worse, when others seem to be winning when bad, he goes even more cynical and completely forget about good. The descent is quick sometimes and almost immediate, and then they stay stuck in this mode.

Then they devise schemes of their own to keep this parasitic life on, taking the whole set hostage, debauching science and the usage of weapons to that end, disrespecting the very weapons they use. This is when they claim they are "independent". In other words, they do not have to depend on the good will of the parent, they semi-independently humiliate and take hostage the parent, using forces and satanisms of various kinds.

It would be much easier to devise and learn at school, but their mind is instead stuck in this diabolical uniquely "mathematics" of manipulating situations and keeping people one step behind them, whether by artifice or force. It's a form of pseudo-independence.

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 05:15 PM

How many here know that the term "Dhimmitude" is used in the Obama-care law?

Dhimmitude is the Muslim system of controlling non-Muslim populations conquered through jihad. Specifically, it is the TAXING of non-Muslims in exchange for tolerating their presence AND as a coercive means of converting conquered remnants to Islam.


See Snopes article.

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 07:31 PM

Greetings, and God bless.


In fact, the word "Dhimmitude" does not appear in the health care bill. The language of the bill is available out there in cyber land, it's easy to find so I did, when I first heard this rumor early last year. The word "Dhimmitude" isn't anywhere in the bill. Nor does the language about "exemptions" for Muslims, another concern related to this one, exist in the bill. Another mind game designed, I believe, by our enemies. Do you have a link to whoever it was that originally wrote the article containing this misinformation? I'd like to know who they are, because they're trying to set us up. We alway, always, ALWAYS need to go to original sources before we believe this kind of stuff, especially if we come across it on the internet.

I looked at the Snopes article linked in the post above.

Two paragraphs into the section in the Snopes entry dealing with the "Origins" it states that, "The fact is that the "Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act" (PPACA) legislation passed by Congress and signed into law by President Obama does not include language which specifically exempts members of any particular religion from health insurance requirements (nor does it use the word "Dhimmitude")."

We all gotta be careful because there are parties out there who hate America who would be delighted to help those of us who love America look like dummies. This is a set up piece designed to get us shouting provably nonsensical stuff in public. It's a standard psy-op tactic, one of many that the progressives are always trying to run on true patriots and we don't want to be falling for them.
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Posted 19 March 2012 - 11:54 PM

My mistake and thanks for clearing it up. That's the first and last time I'm using my smart phone for a post -- not that it's an excuse but I'm usually more thorough with a normal computer monitor. B)