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#21 timpanogas

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Posted 13 November 2008 - 06:56 PM

I just read an article titled "The 5 Stages of Collapse" written by a gentleman who lived in Russia during his childhood before immigrating to the West. He touches upon several points which I feel have validity as we enter into what I think will be a very tumultuous period. It is a bit long but worth the read I think. I have very much appreciated those like Jeff Nyquist who have raised a warning voice to a slumbering people here in the West. His insights have been very beneficial in my preparations for the future. Thank you for your continued efforts JR.


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Posted 14 November 2008 - 09:39 PM

Obama escalates the crushing of dissent...

ANTI-OBAMA BLOGS BEING SHUT DOWN



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Posted 14 November 2008 - 10:56 PM

Obama escalates the crushing of dissent...


Yeah, and just wait until he has been sworn into office!

I wonder if Obama will place his hand on a Bible for the swearing in?

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Posted 14 November 2008 - 11:11 PM

Yeah, and just wait until he has been sworn into office!

I wonder if Obama will place his hand on a Bible for the swearing in?


Looks like we may have to change the Forum to a pro-Obama site dedicated to worshipping each and every word his script writers make him utter. :)
Don`t you just love these democratic communists.
Maybe Obama will fulfill the wishes of long dead progressives and change the American system to a parliamentary type set-up.They will call it proportional representative govt, you will be promised even more democracy.
Truth is, Obama and all the other wannabe despots in the west have long abused the power of parliamentary govt to bulldoze through unpopular social policy like anti-smacking, legalised prostitution,gay marriage.
That Constitution is proving too much of a antiquated hindrance in the way of sustainable govt, that will obviously have to go, or else Obama will just declare it a "living document " and he will have to make some modifications to make sure it remains relevant to the social engineers needs.
Just a few thoughts.

Take care now.

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Posted 15 November 2008 - 04:55 AM

JR, in my opinion, the election of Obama means that Gramscian marxism has won the day in the US. (In other words, Obama's policy will be to incrementally establish communism in the US via the non-violent, social change methodology esposed by Antonio Gramsci.)

Most Americans know little about President elect Obama, other than the fact that he has promised to bring change (which includes government health care and getting us out of Iraq, along with his nebulous promise to "spread around the wealth"). But beyond these "specifics," precisely what kind of change are we talking about here? Many of us have an ill-defined, ominous feeling about what’s in store for America under an Obama administration but, based upon his history, it’s easy to see that Obama is, in “cold-water-in-your-face” reality, a Gramscian Marxist’s dream come true. Here are a couple of articles I recently came across that will help take the wrapping paper off our soon-to-be President.


From Marx to Lenin, Gramsci, Alinsky and Obama
Excerpts from “The Keys of this Blood,” by Malachi Martin - 1990

http://www.crossroad...arx-gramsci.htm

Totalitarianism means total government control: No earthly freedom to deviate from politically correct ideology! No personal property that's not subject to government regulations. No escape from the ever-tightening boundaries of government regulations and global standards. No personal rights to follow God and share His Truth.

The pathway to socialist oppression is no longer bloody revolutions. The omnipresent dialectic process is far more subtle and effective. Enhanced by the steady drumbeat of the the media's pervasive, suggestive and anti-Christian stimuli, minds are dulled and the masses indoctrinated everywhere. While people in the Soviet Union knew they were trapped in a cruel system, many could still think factually and logically. Today's managers of mind-control have nearly perfected the social "science" of collective brainwashing.

How did we get here? A time-line of the last 100 years takes us back to Georg Hegel, a German occultist who conceived the mind-changing dialectic process. His diabolical philosophy fueled Karl Marx's anti-Christian fervor -- and gave Lenin and Stalin their key weapon in their war against Christianity. After all, Communist solidarity meant the pursuit of a collective vision. And the hope of the masses must be set on an earthly Utopia, not the unchanging promises of the Biblical God.

Hindsight proves the failure of the Lenin-Stalin bloodbaths. While the masses were forced to comply, the envisioned Utopia became a deadly nightmare.

Antonio Gramsci was the first Communist leader to see through the illusion. While firmly committed to global Communism, he knew that that violence would fail to win the West. American workers (proletariat) would never declare war on their middle class neighbors as long as they shared common Christian values. So the Italian communist -- a contemporary of Lenin -- wrote an alternative plan for a silent revolution. The main weapons would be deception, manipulation and infiltration. Hiding their Marxist ideology, the new Communist warriors would seek positions of influence in seminaries, government, communities, and the media.

Decades later, Mikhail Gorbachev, the first Soviet leaders to embrace Gramsci's Neo-Marxist plan, became a Pied Piper to leaders around the world. Every field of interest -- arts, science, education, and leadership training -- all became targets for socialist ideology and change. World leaders were learning how to control their armies of willing servers.

Of course, Gorbachev didn't do it alone. Saul Alinsky* and many others had studied Gramsci's blueprint for social transformation even before the Soviet Union collapsed, making Gorbachev a global hero. And by the time I attended his first State of the World Forum -- a strategic part of his Gramscian plan --he had won the hearts of globalist leaders from around the world.

While the tactics had changed, the vision of global Communism remained the same:

1. Replace private ownership with Communitarian partnerships (government being a more powerful, standard-setting partner).

2. Replace hope in eternal life with God with the vision of a here-and-now utopia -- an earthly kingdom of "God"

3. Replace individual thinking with collective thinking -- based on faith in a common humanity

4. Replace the old emphasis on facts and logic with myth, imagination and subjective experience.

5. Replace a free, objective media with a controlled media, driven by the new vision of change and solidarity

6. Replace individual or Christian expressions with politically correct sentiments using schools, entertainment, community groups -- every medium available.

7. Replace privacy with government surveillance and tracking -- using high-tech surveillance to track and re-educated dissenters everywhere….

*Obama's mentors are said to be disciples of Allinsky. The link below says, "Obama spent years teaching workshops on the Alinsky method. In 1985 he began a four-year stint as a community organizer in Chicago, working for an Alinskyite group called the Developing Communities Project. Camouflage is key to Alinsky-style organizing. While trying to build coalitions of black churches in Chicago, Obama caught flak for not attending church himself. He became an instant churchgoer."

More on Allinsky and Obama (and Hillary too): http://www.crossroad...ism/alinsky.htm

It just occurred tome that if the media had down their homework, they would have reported the truth about Obama, and he would never have been elected. Namely, that his employment, prior to entering electoral politics, was as a Marxist, community organizer.


Obama's "Universal" Service Plan - Part 2
Mind Change and Collective Service
By Berit Kjos - October 2008

http://www.crossroad...2-service.htm#5

Note: the links in this article are very good--as is the web site from which it originates.


More about Gramsci (especially look at the section on “Hegemony“)

http://www.theory.or...r-gram.htm#hege

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Posted 16 November 2008 - 11:49 AM

Totalitarianism means total government control: No earthly freedom to deviate from politically correct ideology! No personal property that's not subject to government regulations. No escape from the ever-tightening boundaries of government regulations and global standards. No personal rights to follow God and share His Truth.

The pathway to socialist oppression is no longer bloody revolutions. The omnipresent dialectic process is far more subtle and effective. Enhanced by the steady drumbeat of the the media's pervasive, suggestive and anti-Christian stimuli, minds are dulled and the masses indoctrinated everywhere.


This is basicaly it. It's like charismatic personalities on TV or a dream or nightmare listening to a loved one or pronouncer. Instead of basing oneself on reality about, one is basing on others or on a narcissist image of oneself for building self confidence. All after that then becomes imaginary substance or interpreted through such lenses of others or narcissist views of oneself.

It's why Obama brainwashes himself. It's why Bill Clinton promotes in his book "self believing" psychologies of "confidence" shows and delusions of grandeur: he recalls in it an uncle who told him he was smart and he'd do great things, and focused on that photograph shaking Kennedy's hand. I've seen people passing airport screening by showing pictures of themselves shaking Powell's hand. It's the authority aura and other pavlovian reactions and to doctors telling people to do crazy things. Just because they are doctors or have degrees, they are believed beyond question.

Obama is the quintessence of this college culture that elected him... culture which also made Ayers terrorists into professors and thus ushering the view of Bin Laden or 911 as some kind of liberation directional messianism. They fail to see of course that we fear monger about Obama less than we view him for his emptiness (and rather see the disaster of his love mongering blind followers).

This leads to tyranny, worse than a tyrant with super powers, because both the empowered and the power is also blind. Better have a "crazy" dictator with a real superweapon imposing about with eyes on the field, than this kind of blind animal beast running about.

Obama promises the world to unsatisfied terrorists like a fool, and, worse, to himself. It's what makes these folkes intractable. The dialogue is only meant to focus on the "cuteness person" and lecturer for attention's sake, not on the exercise. The addition focus on "humaneness" yields a reverse feelings philosophy of false kindness, truly believable but completely erroneous, gratuitous, dangerous, empowering and even perverted.

It is indeed a sort of foolish race against God Who already has shed Job's Devil for challenging Himself by Himself through a third creation, as an alternative. It makes sense, the idea of "not even looking at the Devil" or at one's own face, in the sense of Duerer's engraving themes.

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Posted 16 November 2008 - 04:59 PM

Great stuff SJL, it has been said the devils greatest trick has been fooling the people into believing the devil/evil does not exist.Nothing to see here, so move along.The Leftist and moral relativism/moral equivalence achieves the same trickery.
The west has gone down the path of self esteem, over and above achievement and capability.

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Posted 17 November 2008 - 05:32 AM

According to East-Asia Intel the regime in North Korea sent a senior official to New York last week to meet President-elect Barack Obama`s security adviser.Pyongyangs official media were also swift in reporting Obamas election win-just two days after the elections.It is important to note it is very rare for the N Korean state media to so rapidly report the outcome of a US presidential election.
Hmm, I wonder what Obama and the N Koreans are talking about, maybe it is all perfectly innocent stuff like swapping recipes or could be laying the foundations for a more benign and respectful American foreign policy towards those nations actively seeking the destruction of the US and her interests.
It is interesting that the North Koreans blasted McCain as a "scarecrow of neoconservatives", whatever that means.
Is this big news in the US or what?

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Posted 17 November 2008 - 02:21 PM

I'm a big fan of Robert L. Kocher's socio-political & cultural analyses.

He used to be more prolific, but lately (over the last few years) is down to about 1 or 2 essays a year.

He just put up two new ones; one on the economic collapse, and one on Obama.

They are here:

Seeds of Economic Collapse

The Coup

They (and all his essays, for that matter) are worth reading. The last one, "The Coup," looks like it was put up in haste, judging by some typos and grammatical errors - nevertheless, it's good stuff.

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Posted 17 November 2008 - 03:36 PM

I'm a big fan of Robert L. Kocher's socio-political & cultural analyses.

He used to be more prolific, but lately (over the last few years) is down to about 1 or 2 essays a year.

He just put up two new ones; one on the economic collapse, and one on Obama.

They are here:

Seeds of Economic Collapse

The Coup

They (and all his essays, for that matter) are worth reading. The last one, "The Coup," looks like it was put up in haste, judging by some typos and grammatical errors - nevertheless, it's good stuff.


Priceless stuff!

Obama is a Marxist/socialist subversive working toward economic collapse of the nation.

Biden is a career politician trying to fabricate enough fancy words to get along.

McCain is worse than useless and irrelevant. The only explanation I can venture for his condition is that the missile that shot down his airplane in Viet Nam must have blown out half his brains while leaving the part of his brain promoting ambition.

Sara Palin is a thoroughly likable person, but it is a long way between shooting caribou in Alaska and serious economic analysis. She's out of the box in a world that alien to her.

The Bushs, both of them, were born lazy and feeble-witted, but with pleasant table manners and social demeanor.



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Posted 17 November 2008 - 05:30 PM

Priceless stuff!

Agreed!

The first paragraph of "The Coup," sums things up pretty well:


The Coup: a position paper.

Robert L. Kocher

Obama's election marks the successful culmination of a coup which has been decades in the making. Two things occurred. 1) The Marxist/socialist coup strategists developed and supported a person with the capability of selling its intentions and position. 2) Previous to the election the strategists spent decades subverting the population into a sickened and weakened state so that there would be no serious opposition when the time to strike came. The coup represents an overthrowing of the constitution, an attack or overthrowing of the educational system, a weakening/overthrowing of our economic system, an overthrowing of our moral system, a subversion of religion, an overthrowing and a wearing down of our evaluative/rational processes....

http://members.mount...papers/coup.htm

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Posted 17 November 2008 - 05:47 PM

Talk about buyer's remorse for some voters:

Despite Campaign Claim, Obama Told Paper He Attended Trinity Church ‘Every Week’

Is anyone surprised, really? I'm not surprised by his comments, nor surprised by the media not putting this out. This would've easily re-energized the McCain campaign that tried to revive old news in the last 2 weeks.

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Posted 17 November 2008 - 06:16 PM

I wonder if Obama will place his hand on a Bible for the swearing in?


I think it will be a Holy Bible cover...housing, in deceit, the Koran (or the Communist Manifesto).

(He said, jokingly...half-jokingly.)

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Posted 17 November 2008 - 08:16 PM

American Thinker has a shocking expose revealing exactly how Obama wants to shut down talk radio. And it's got nothing to do with the Fairness Doctrine. Remember how I told you Obama is almost serpentine in how he circumvents laws? You couldn't find a better example.

The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) rule in question is called "localism." Radio and television stations are required to serve the interests of their local community as a condition of keeping their broadcast licenses.

Obama needs only three votes from the five-member FCC to define localism in such a way that no radio station would dare air any syndicated conservative programming.



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Posted 19 November 2008 - 11:17 PM

The President Elect made a comment the other day that could have come from this very forum.

He stated, to paraphrase, that one of his reasons for ensuring that his national security team was fully up and running prior to Inauguration, and, for working so closely with Bush on that particular hand off, was because he was worried that someone may try to attack us during the hand off period.

Those who have read this forum (and its predecessors) for years have seen my mention of this previously. The period from the Party Conventions through shortly after Inauguration is a highly vulnerable period for the US. The Inaugural Ceremony itself is the ultimate in terms of vulnerability - all the VIPs gathered together in one place, neither the outgoing nor incoming CiC focused on the military aspects of their job for nearly an entire day, a very dangerous day indeed.

Now, today, Al Qaida, a Kremlin proxy, has threatened President Elect Obama with great harm. I also noted this possibility nearly one year ago. Obama, as a "fallen Muslim," is considered to be a grave enemy of the Islamic Nazis.

Here seem to begin, the worst days ...

God help the USA, and the West.

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Posted 20 November 2008 - 12:59 AM

Just curious... Did anyone ever think about the symbolism of Michelle Obama's dress on election evening? It has the 'hour glass' look of the black widow spider...

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A lot of people speculate that she wore that as a message to those trying to overthrow or otherwise bring down her husband. She's the black widow, it's not going to happen, etc... Also there's the notion that it represents the anarcho-syndicalist and anarcho-communist movements. It definitely fits a black widow pattern, but whether there's anything to it, I don't know...

I'd put a spider picture up to draw a comparison but it would probably give you guys the heebie jeebies more than the Obamas running the White House... Then again, you can always buy RAID for the spiders lol...

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Posted 20 November 2008 - 01:16 AM

The Inaugural Ceremony itself is the ultimate in terms of vulnerability - all the VIPs gathered together in one place, neither the outgoing nor incoming CiC focused on the military aspects of their job for nearly an entire day, a very dangerous day indeed.


The forecasted numbers for turnout at the inauguration are 1,000,000+ ecstatic Obama supporters. I sure hope that the security is top-notch. Terrorist attack, etc. would be tragic... and could spark extreme civil unrest if something happened to Obama and/or citizens.

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Posted 20 November 2008 - 01:17 AM

The President Elect made a comment the other day that could have come from this very forum.

He stated, to paraphrase, that one of his reasons for ensuring that his national security team was fully up and running prior to Inauguration, and, for working so closely with Bush on that particular hand off, was because he was worried that someone may try to attack us during the hand off period.

Those who have read this forum (and its predecessors) for years have seen my mention of this previously. The period from the Party Conventions through shortly after Inauguration is a highly vulnerable period for the US. The Inaugural Ceremony itself is the ultimate in terms of vulnerability - all the VIPs gathered together in one place, neither the outgoing nor incoming CiC focused on the military aspects of their job for nearly an entire day, a very dangerous day indeed.

Now, today, Al Qaida, a Kremlin proxy, has threatened President Elect Obama with great harm. I also noted this possibility nearly one year ago. Obama, as a "fallen Muslim," is considered to be a grave enemy of the Islamic Nazis.

Here seem to begin, the worst days ...

God help the USA, and the West.


Hello BM, very astute observations, even more frightening is the fact that the Ceremony is going to have an audience numbering in the millions, an al Qaeda wet dream come true.Imagine a couple of suicide bombers in a crowd that size and the damage they will be able to inflict,especially if the bomber/bombers have laced the explosives with another agent like anthrax or bio/chem weapon to inflict even more secondary casualties.Even a hijacked aircraft is entirely possible ,unless they are going to suspend all commercial flights in the US on the 20th
I have been thinking about this possibility and have thought that maybe Obamas National security advisers may insist on a holographic Ceremony set-up.Holograms are after all a reality now, and I couldn`t think of a better opportunity than this for it to be used as a precautionary measure.
We will just have to wait and see I guess.

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Posted 20 November 2008 - 02:23 AM

The President Elect made a comment the other day that could have come from this very forum.

He stated, to paraphrase, that one of his reasons for ensuring that his national security team was fully up and running prior to Inauguration, and, for working so closely with Bush on that particular hand off, was because he was worried that someone may try to attack us during the hand off period.

Those who have read this forum (and its predecessors) for years have seen my mention of this previously. The period from the Party Conventions through shortly after Inauguration is a highly vulnerable period for the US. The Inaugural Ceremony itself is the ultimate in terms of vulnerability - all the VIPs gathered together in one place, neither the outgoing nor incoming CiC focused on the military aspects of their job for nearly an entire day, a very dangerous day indeed.

Now, today, Al Qaida, a Kremlin proxy, has threatened President Elect Obama with great harm. I also noted this possibility nearly one year ago. Obama, as a "fallen Muslim," is considered to be a grave enemy of the Islamic Nazis.

Here seem to begin, the worst days ...

God help the USA, and the West.


I really don't see an attempt on Obama himself, but possibly like you said.. with all of the VIPs in one spot, yes. I can't reason out why they'd attack a man that has the potential to bring down the USA from the inside, in the worst way possible. That's what they want.

Then again, when Al Qaeda says the next attack will be one thousand times more spectacular than the last, one wonders. With more than half the country glued to their tubes watching, that would be something "spectacular" in their minds, right? When I think of the word spectacular in regards to how terrorists describe their attacks, it's something that has to be wide media coverage. More than half the country watched the fate of New Yorkers live on TV during 9/11.

The logic plays out on both sides. It's definitely something to think about.

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Posted 20 November 2008 - 03:34 AM

Note the assinine multiculturalist comments in this screed of "confidence" against Al Qaeda's "trash talk" against Obama.

http://www.iht.com/a...deast/qaeda.php

It seems like our analysts and media of the left love Bin Laden up until they find him hurting Obama's feelings, calling him "house negro" as opposed to MalcomX being a "field negro". I wonder what AQ thinks of Farahkan who profited/abeted the murder of MAlcomX when this latter balked at racial divide politics of black nationalists (nazies, panthers etc.)

This is MArxist language of Eastern loot fringe strain, by the way. It's been adopted as a form of isolating blacks from independent success in the ghettos, keeping them down marxist, and it's also a line used by the unsavory character in that CivilWar movie with Kussak regarding that all black unit.

Interestingly, African American muslims support Bin Laden 2-1 more than other muslims of foreign and other colors. Again, assinine of us to think that Obama is shielded from this brand of hate by black racists given his wife's hold on him.

Obviously AQ is trying to corner Obama to an obedient corner, isolated, and AQ is also manipulating us to shoe in "foreign" muslims in. THis works well for the KGB ops of dividing on one side and setting up for directly KGB backed "multicultural" managers on top.